Who owns the device: governments, Apple, banks, and TV makers

Canadians are being urged to oppose Bill C-22. Commenters worry it expands sharing of personal data with foreign law enforcement, including the US, and joked about "private keys being 4" because the government needs it that way. Another commenter said Canadian political apathy makes opposing it feel futile. Around a dozen banking apps began explicitly permitting GrapheneOS, a win for people who want a hardened phone. Apple's Security Research Device page drew the complaint that Apple creates the problem by owning every iPhone, then heroically fights to solve it. The Samsung TV with an AI listening in rounds out the thread. An old FCC IoT-security-label thread resurfaced too, with the same debate about update obligations and open firmware.

The pattern: control of the device keeps moving up the stack, away from the person who bought it. Governments want access to data, vendors want locked hardware, and banks want attestation. Each can justify itself on security grounds.

Commenters also noted the irony that banking apps demanding anti-tampering often have memory corruption bugs of their own.